Staff costs and then supporting senior and representative teams. Bear Years ago. A small comparison, in broad terms anyway, to justify some football expenses to that of some basketball expenses generally speaking : Associations Football clubs usually have more autonomy and flexibility in the use and output in dollar terms to that of a basketball club.
In basketball terms it is an Association that runs the competition, not necessarily the venue and clubs will play games there, where as in football the club is the main body under a bigger league made up of much bigger clubs than basketball all with their own venue. Benefits The result is that football clubs can generate their own income, through meals, drinks, fundraising nights, chook raffles, poker machines, entry fees to games much bigger crowds attending , sponsors etc They can control this aspect of income, basketball clubs generally have only a membership fee if at all, then some fundraising or sponsorship if they work at it.
Associations collect fees for membership, door entry and sponsors but most do not run their own canteen and will have massive ongoing fees, but some Associations are in control and do have more income generating options such as canteens, like HO states there are so many variations in basketball operations or structures.
As stated in some of the above posts, basketball is a complex and multi-tiered organisation, far more so than football. Basketball needs far more officiating and people to run games because there are far more games in shorter bursts and while overall participation numbers might be similar in some areas, teams are smaller and there are many more of them so costs are less spread among team mates than for football.
So many more areas to compare, but I won't try to do so here. Not even going down the track of training costs or just using a venue to have a run you can always have a kick of the footy on an oval without being asked to shell out cash because of running costs to have the lights on. Captain, Without looking closely or providing lots of figures, anecdotally that figure would be cheaper at the Melbourne club.
Don't think the canteens here in SA all make money for their club as they may have structures you are not aware of and income may be nil or minimal. Lots of assumptions going around and very little fact in relation to income from them. Another Anon Years ago. Just another one that hasn't been mentioned - Insurance.
Been involved in club financials for cricket in WA and the biggest increased cost over the last 10yrs has been insurance. So whether it's the club's own insurance or the facility's insurance costs being past on to clubs or both!
Generally insurance is a really small thing for basketball. The insurance cover is generic, covers players badly but good cover for clubs with public liability etc. And as such takes all the revenue. Clubs must pay the state body for every session of training they have at those venues.
ANd we dont have a domestic competition from which to draw revenue. Really interesting discussion everyone - thank you so much for your input. Lots there that I hadn't factored in - insurance is a killer for many, many activities. So two questions remain for me; Does anyone know if clubs use juniors fees etc If Basketball SA in fact run the majority of the functions, stadiums, canteens etc Basketball looks to have comparable numbers of players to Football, but Football clubs seem to run much better.
Is the structure of basketball in SA a hindrance? Too bad Basketball SA isnt simply a governing body that only has to ensure governance is adhered too - such as what the AFL do and from I believe Baskteball in Victoria do. This model allows not for profit Clubs to become not for profit associations and the revenue generated goes back to developing the game and grow grass roots basketball through their own domestic competition.
What we have now is the total opposite. Baller 3 Years ago. Surely sponsorship would be a big part of it, my junior football club had probably triple the sponsors of the district basketball clubs. To reach SEABL level you need to be disciplined and this commitment and discipline crosses over continually throughout a players life in work, education etc nothing comes easy. Kids want to have a pathway towards the best basketball competition their association can provide. Importantly money needs to go back into junior development, its really a perfect scenario as the players pathway can extend to SEABL, U.
You're wrong , kids dream of one day representing their club at a senior level, which in the majority of cases is SEABL. Orbs Years ago. Running costs are the same as district as the refs, court supervisor and court hire still have to be paid to BSA. The coaches are paid for games and training, albeit low but many games are coached by youth members who commit to supplement their income while at Uni and cover petrol costs.
Only way to get coaches regularly at this level so profits quickly reabsorbed. The cost to players are low to make it affordable to families and they still run trainings with all the same cost again for hire, coaches, etc.
They also have someone in charge to run the competition as they have 20 - 40 teams per stadium at those that run domestic in Adelaide. All is not what it seems, again many assumptions without confirmation. There are many volunteers too that reduce costs. There is also managing Aussie Hoops which often crosses over between the 2. Its more about providing pathway for those wishing to play and maybe go to a district team and not always at the same place domestic is run.
Again, assumptions and not facts. The only way to make money at domestic is to have 10 players in a team and that defeats the purpose of opportunity to play and most teams run with much lower numbers if possible. Court time is usually equal as well so great value for kids. Sometimes more fun too. Shotclock Years ago. As an side issue ,Ive been in many a stadium and watched quite a few persons just walk through not pay any fees yes taken into account re-entries, coaches, parents roll in after kids.
Dont pigeon Hole the fee dodger ,they come in all manner of societies types. So did my own study god yeah bored whenever out on district games and now wonder if a turnstile with a bar code laminated ticket would be a good way to increase incomes collected? Jack Toft Years ago. If I am not mistaken, you have to pay to watch kids play football, gates are usually manned and entrance fees paid on game day.
The difference is that your kid might play two or three games of basketball a week, football it would only be one game. Mostly a domestic game of basketball they do not charge entrance fees to watch, representative games, yes, but I don't see this as an issue at all Hi Bear, You definitely do not have to pay to watch your kids play football.
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Here are cost estimates for full-size courts:. If you are willing to cut costs by building a half-size court, then here are some cost estimates:. When it comes to basketball flooring, the main options are hardwood and laminate. Hardwood flooring offers a more premium feel and often better longevity. If you want to save money, then going for laminate flooring is a good option. But you pay for that cheapness with increased slipperiness compared with hardwood floors. If you have existing cement slabs, you could use them as a base for your court.
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